What these (count to ten before you choose your words) uh, people, claim is my "strategy" is actually merely a tactic, a tool. They say we're "out of time." How do they know THAT? And whose clock are they watching? The enemy plays both a short and a long game, so should we.
I'm in a bar fight and I use any chair. What then would these ideological purists do? Indeed, what HAVE they done? The question is rhetorical, for I am not going to waste time refuting them now. Maybe after 19 April (Absolved has to be finished and submitted before I leave for Washington). Anybody else want to give it a whirl?
Mike
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Sorry Mike but I tend to agree with MOWCA to a point.Obumass HC is at least for now the Law of the Land and will remaine so unless the U.S.Supreame Court declares it Un-Constitutional(I HOPE)or if they just declares parts of it as such(not a lawyer)and there's realy no absolute guaranty that they will do that so I BELIVE we only have untill then at the latest to take action,and possibly not that long who knows what more senanigans this Obumass Administration/Legistration will pull off.I know that we don't want to be the ones to fire the first shot but we do need to take more drastic action. The Sons of Liberty did Tar and Feather a few Tax Collectors. Maybe we should look to them for some Insperation.I'm not sating personal violence we'll have enough of that later on I think but maybe something more costly to these bastards, a little provacation shall we say.incite them to make the FATAL ERROR.
There's nothing new under the Sun Tzu; "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
A green fighter pilot spots a German fighter base below and suggests they go down and hit it. Chuck Yeager drawls, "I'll give you top cover."
Eric
III to get ready...
I keep getting a whiff of "if only Obama weren't president, everything would return to normal" from the first post.
That is, of course, far from even a scintilla of truth.
The degeneration of the US government began very early, mostly from Hamiltonians like John Marshall who instituted, through his decision as Chief Justice, much of the Federalists ideas that had been rejected at the Constitutional Convention.
The monster, Abraham Lincoln, pretty much destroyed the bulk of state powers to control the agent they'd created, the final nails in the coffin of our freedom having been driven home by the Transnational Socialist (Tranzi), Franklin Roosevelt.
Every president after Roosevelt has presided over further diminishing of our freedoms and liberty.
The current Tranzi in the White House has simply taken a much larger bite than usual and galvanized many more people to act together, a long overdue situation.
We may be able to restore the republic in some sense, but not with the current national government and Constitution, they cannot be repaired, they must be removed and replaced.
The original Articles of Confederation would be a good starting point and, lawfully, are still in effect.
"well what would YOU do" is not an argument that invalidates anything they say. they're right.
Rally James here.
Well, sure, we all feel a sense of urgency, to say the least. For decades the adversary has exploited our and our fathers' good-natured proclivity toward self-restraint, and now we face the adversary deep in our own territory. Yet,it is unclear to me what precisely the folks in Washington County propose. No one here is remotely suggesting that we all just do a little guerrilla propaganda, therapeutic brick throwing, and bureaucratic sabotage, and then go home to drink beer or meditate on our yoga mats at the day's end. Mike offers suggestions, ideas, inspiration, along with a measure of ribald humor and good cheer - tactical tools that a wide variety of freedom lovers with different levels of ability and resources can use to do their part in a leaderless, decentralized way. These are by no means held forth as substitution for the heavy duty. My 2 bits.
While it is true that the colonials went to war with their Mother country England over what we would call today "light and transient causes", the first American revolution did not happen overnight. A crescendo of events perpetrated by the Crown was initially responded to by redress of grievances to the Crown, small yet growing acts of non-violence, town hall meetings and various groups gathered together to share their grievances and plot solutions. It is when these came together, in defiance of the Crown, that the Crown dedicated itself to brutality and absolute despotism.
Now is not the time. We must let the crescendo build to critical mass. We must continue with the Tea Parties, The 2nd Amendment rallies, the protests, the redress of grievances ... we must grow, we must educate, we must show our defiance without resorting to violence ... yet ... and let this government do what all government do ... lash out at us in the face of our defiance.
Now is not the time to go Patrick Henry. Read his speech again ... sans the emotionalism ... and he will tell you when it is time.
Are we there yet?
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say, ‘What should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, and plough, and sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams, speech at the Philadelphia State House, August 1, 1776
Not yet.
Now, that thing about the Chinese reminds me of G. Washington's vision. Now, whether that vision was true or not, I do not know. But I have always suspected for various reasons that China may indeed invade the uSA by invitation or not.
I am remind that in recent months that Americans have bought enough firearms and ammo to outfit the entire Chinese and India armies combined ... and maybe this is all divine providence and maybe G. Washington's vision was indeed true.
Sometimes it is the Lords way to put us through fire to purify us. We are not in the fire yet.
One of my alter-ego multiple personality types stopped by there.
What a POS excuse for a site.
Mama Liberty had already left a comment - pithy and concise as usual.
Mine follows hers.
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10:21, 3 April, 2010 р.
MamaLiberty says:
So… what do you suggest?
13:29, 3 April, 2010 р.
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jay heath mannix says:
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Soon as I see anyone in your neck of the woods do anything other than say how wrong everybody else is and how everyone’s suggestions are doomed to failure, I’ll have a lot of folk ready to follow right behind you.
But frankly, back in ‘Nam we always had Captains or Second LTs who never did jack shit except talk about how THEY would have done something better than the grunts who actually made it happen. I don’t expect a lot different from this site.
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Communism is centralized global government without nation state soverignity and Fascism is nearly the same thing as Communism, but each country retains their soverignity and determines their own policies.
Both Fascism and Communism are forms of socialism and both are totolitarian in nature. The Mob are slaves to the system instituted over them by the elite and their corporations with no say in the matter.
Both systems require that the citizen serve the interests of the state (Elite and their corporations) as opposed to the state serving the interests of all the people as in "We the People" which is what a Republic is for.
In a Republic (Republicanism) the Government is formed by a representative electoral process and charged to protect the individuals rights over the mobs rule by protecting and guaranteeing certain freedoms and liberties deemed essential to maintain a reasonable amount of self determination and self soverign status to the citizen. In the United States the governments primary funtion is supposed to be to safeguard the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as opposed to serving the dictates of the elite, their corporations, and also against their ability to manipulate the masses using sophisticated techniques of mass mind control which were developed in Nazi Germany and refined by the Tavistock Group after World War 2 by the Global Elite Oligarchs and the social engineering Think Tanks and Foundations they financed.
The way it worked out is the whole world pretty much went Fascist after WW2 serving the interests of Oligarchs at the national level. Now that the Oligarchs and their Corporations have Transnationalized themselves globally they want to do away with the national soverignity of Fascism and turn it into International Communism so they can streamline their slave state on a global scale and get rid of most of what they deem useless feeders by using the tripple Hoax excuses of Terrorism, Overpopulation, and Climate change. All of which are fear mongering Hegelian Dialectic ruses.
Basically they stole Hitlers ideas and remade it to serve themselves right down to his eugenics policies. They changed the name to genetic engineering of course in order to throw the public off the scent.
Different countries adopted differing variations of it in order to cater to the political delusions of their populations, preferences of its Oligarchy and/or personal taste of its dictator, but the basic ideas spread to all nations either by force, or cooperation. Many smaller countries were kept from developing their infrastructure to raise the standard of living of their populations in order to steal their resources. Many of these countries have been targeted with genocide in order to depopulate them, or to destroy the attempt by the people to take back their right to self determination and soverignity.
The United States population was the most resistant of all to Fascism and Communism and so they had to be coaxed with incremental Socialism. Since we were the most difficult to bring arround because our Republican Constitution and Bill of Rights were and still are to an extent worshiped as a Religion we got Tavistock and its most sophisticated techniques of social engineering, but that would be a whole other subject. There is a link in my signature to it if your interested.
This is the mentality of the Transnationalist Global Elite towards all of us.
Very creepy, disturbing childrens cartoon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWaPXVoy68o
Dear Mike, I posted that comment describing Communism.
I live in Prattville. 100 miles from you.
Been lurking your blog for sometime now.
I am retired on social security like yourself.
I am also a Disabled Veteran.
Been corresponding with Sheriff Mack for some time and regard myself as an OathKeeper.
I wish I could get to the Tea Party on the 19th, but transportation and expenses will prevent me.
I do what I can full time teaching in the forums and have been for nearly 10 years.
Keep up the good work.
My reply at MOWCA:
Wow, who wrote this crap?
I'm VERY well versed in this entire subject matter, probably more so than the author. However, I find this piece to be so entangled in false premises and illogical conclusions that I cannot lower myself to sorting them out and refuting them all.
Suffice it to say, I call BS!
And we wonder sometimes how the statists can call Constitutionalists and libertarians "right wing nutjobs"? THIS crap is why! PLEASE delete this article! You only detract from rational people everywhere!
It's "in moderation", I wonder if they'll publish it.
LOL! WV is "andapay", as in ya pay andapay andapay...
After reading the comments so far, I have to reiterate along with others that the statist modus operandi is INCREMENTALISM.
Yes, there will be instances of blatant and SEVERE abuse, as we saw in the '90's, but that is simply a "ratcheting up" of the allowable infractions to the next level. It is ALWAYS followed by a cooling period which conditions the populace to the new status quo.
Unrelenting and impervious to the
protests of the masses, the plan moves forward in both slow progression and spikes of violence.
I still think that the author of that post at MOWCA is quite insane to believe that ANYONE, including our military and LEO's, would allow a
decisive number of foreign troops to land in our country, invited or not.
I have more faith than that in OUR guys and gals, no matter HOW much their masters have been corrupted.
TSWHTF and TEOTWAWKI will be well underway before that, if that scenario comes into play. MY first thought would be, at that hypothetical point, WHERE do they get logistical support? At that juncture, our Gov't would already be gone in all but name.
Hell, the mind boggles at such BS!
WV: "slycled" - slyly cycled into your mind thru nefarious repetition?
"the strategy Mike Vanderboegh advocates will prove to be totally useless.Why?
Because in every communist system, everyone is made to spy on everyone else. Those who will not, will be rounded up and taken away. All it will take to be hauled off, will be the slightest of comments, a wrong look, ignoring the wrong person, and heaven help you if you refuse to cooperate."
Wrong! You sign up and turn in your statist neighbor. Using evidence you planted on their property or them.
For example. "Local gun control advocate found in possession of Machine gun" reads the headline.
With a little help they will eat their own.
Don't believe me? Look into the history of the Third Reich.
This is how the We are Everywhere plan can cripple the collectivist vermin.
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